I still think Warehouse 13 needs to be considered a bible for all writers/directors/producers on how to make something brilliant that also happens to pass the Bechdel test with flying colors, AND includes canon queer characters, older women, people of color, etc. It’s one of Syfy’s top-rated shows, too, so boom go the “people won’t watch it” excuses for making stuff into nothing but sausage fests. It’s doable. If you can’t/don’t/won’t, it’s because you’re shitty at your job, not because audiences won’t watch stuff without wall-to-wall straight, white dudes.
great point. the show is not above criticism as it sidelines and typecasts poc, as well as ignores positioning Steve as an actively gay character. that being said, the show still kicks some serious ass and this post is a super important point. long live the warehouse!
Points taken, definitely (though I think the latter issue may be improved upon somewhat as the rest of this season goes on.)
I also have to give credit to Joanne and Jaime, for pushing ahead with the Bering/Wells thing even if it wasn’t originally intended to be canon (and still isn’t, technically.) Kind of funny, really, how the show’s biggest fan-supported ship turned out to be f/f, and traditional m/f-leads het shippers are finding themselves in the position slashers usually are.
Overall, I think most SFF shows these days are doing diversity much better than their mainstream counterparts. There are still fails now and then, both in the stuff I mentioned in the previous post (SPN, DW, Merlin) and in other stuff (why, if Grimm has a gay showrunner, has it had no gay characters? Weird.) But there’s also been some great progress. Honestly, I think that’s why it’s so jarring when stuff like SPN does fail to be inclusive. It’s just not that common anymore for a genre show to be all white dudes, all the time. We’ve definitely made some great steps forward.
And speaking of steps forward, I do have to put in a plug for a couple of shows about to have their U.S. debuts on Syfy next month: Sinbad and Primeval: New World. The former has a black lead and other prominent PoC characters, and for once is a fantasy set outside of Europe. And the latter has both PoC characters and a canon bisexual (not to mention one of the most realistic women characters I’ve seen in years in Dylan Weir.) Many of Syfy’s other recent shows have been good, too—Defiance, Continuum, etc. (My issues with Lost Girl are a different post, sadly.)
I think the conventional marketing wisdom is still a factor. Cable shows do still make only a fraction of the ratings of their network counterparts, and goodness knows the biggest ratings of all are still going to trashy reality dreck, instead of quality scripted stuff. Sadly, many women, queer folk and people of color are still blithely watching stuff that marginalizes or even denigrates them, and straight, white dudes are still considered a target demo, even if they don’t make up the majority of viewers and haven’t for a generation. But we are making progress, and I think there are fewer and fewer excuses to be had now for not being inclusive. The target 18-35 demo takes diversity as a given, not a controversy, so there’s no point in trying to pussyfoot around their delicate sensibilities anymore. The people who did care about such things are aging out of marketing sweet spots, so catering to prejudice just isn’t important anymore.
Now if only the folks with the purse strings would realize that. ;)
The pain you feel I feel it too
Say the words and I will take it away from you
Hiding Place - Miranda Frigon
Absolutely love this, and it worked so well in the episode.
I totally need to make an A/B/C vid to this song, though.
Actually, it could also apply to pretty much any of my other OT3 or quasi-BFF ships: Mitchell/Annie/George, Sinbad/Anwar/Rina, Eliot/Parker/Hardison, Matthew/Mary/Branson, Reid/Morgan/Garcia, JohnLock, Bruce/Tony, Claudia/Jinks (also Bering/Wells—damn good one for that, actually), Nick/Monroe, Cesare/Lucrezia, Frodo/Sam …
Hell, I may just have to do a multi-fandom vid at this rate!
So is it just me, or …
… did Grimm just literally put Rosalee on a bus?
Granted, that’s a convenient way to handle Bree’s maternity leave.
And no, I won’t mention how I hope this kinda means more Nick/Monroe.
A short list of male TV characters who could be made canon bisexual
Was just thinking of how few canon bi men there are currently on (scripted) TV. So few, in fact, I can think of only one off the top of my head (Eric Northman.) There are several canon bi women (straight guys like that, of course), and some gay men (though they tend to be desexualized), but bi guys are like freaking unicorns.
They do, in fact, exist in real life, however (hi, married to one!) so it’d be nice to see that reflected in entertainment. (Especially since we’ve likely seen the last of Jack Harkness.)
So, to remedy this, I humbly suggest that the creators of the following dudes consider expanding these theoretically (but not yet canon established*) straight** characters’ worlds—and those of the audience, in the process.
- Eliot Spencer (Leverage)
- Eddie Monroe (Grimm)
- Artie Nielsen (Warehouse 13)
- Hal Yorke (Being Human)
- Spencer Reid (Criminal Minds)
- Any dude on Lost Girl (seriously, all those queer women and no queer men? WTF? Granted, there was a tiny hint from Vex, but not enough, especially considering how explicit the show otherwise is. Also, Vex is an amoral manwhore. We don’t need that stereotype.)
Also, when GoT finally gets around to Oberyn Martell, he’d best remain visibly bi. Hmph.
(I’d also like to see queer characters of any sort on Sinbad and Primeval: New World, but the former is probably very unlikely to go there, and we don’t know enough about the latter, yet. It may well have a queer character on there already—Toby, perhaps?)
This is just from the shows I watch, BTW. I’d be happy to hear suggestions for characters from other shows.
Establishing these men as bi, incidentally, wouldn’t be hard. W13 managed to do it for H.G. Wells with one line. All you need is a throwaway reference to a past boyfriend/male date/crush/hookup and you’re there. Another option is a reference to some dude being hot (“I’d do him.”) Granted, I’d prefer something more elaborate than that, but baby steps are better than no steps at all. Hell, Teen Wolf is already halfway there with Stiles. Turning him canon bi would be downright effortless, and the fandom is demanding it anyway.
Given how much TV has otherwise progressed in increasing diversity, it does seem odd that this area is otherwise a complete desert. I can only imagine that they’re working from biphobic stereotypes (some gay men and straight women do still think bi men are untrustworthy), or they’ve utterly failed to see the enormous slash fan contingent out there, and thus are missing an additional, potentially huge supportive audience. Whatever the case, it’s time to see these guys on TV, and since I’m not seeing any signs of bi men being introduced as new characters, it’s worth, I think, seeing about expanding some of the existing ones.
*Established as being attracted to women, but not established as NOT being attracted to men.
**The reason I say straight characters and not gay ones is because of the risk of straightwashing. Don’t want to go there.
Six ships you’re into right now:
(Parentheses are wildcards—can enjoy the ship without them, but it’s more fun with!)
1. Abby/(Becker)/Connor - Primeval
2. Renly/Loras/(Margaery) - Game of Thrones
3. (Eliot)/Parker/Hardison - Leverage
4. Jo/Zane/Fargo/(Holly)/(Claudia) - Eureka/Warehouse 13
5. (Reid)/(Morgan)/(Garcia) - Criminal Minds (any combo of those three works for me!)
6. Harker/Nikolai/(Celeste) - True Bloodthirst
Three ships you liked, but don’t anymore.
7. Eric/Sookie - True Blood
8. George/Annie/Mitchell - Being Human
9. Henry/Kate - Sanctuary
Three ships you never liked.
10. Becker/Jess - Primeval
11. Sansa/Sandor - Game of Thrones
12. Bill/Sookie - True Blood
Two ships you’re curious about, but don’t actually ship.
13. Nick/Juliet/Monroe - Grimm
14. Sansa/Lancel - Game of Thrones
Questions: (Under the cut)
From Sasha’s Twitter. This is adorable!
Looking for something new to watch?
Here’s a list of some of my favorites. Chances are good that if you like one of the shows on this list, you’ll probably like a few more.
Amazon has all of them at least on DVD—and has most of them streaming as well—and Netflix and iTunes should have them, too.
- Lost Girl
- Warehouse 13
- Painkiller Jane
- Criminal Minds
- Robin Hood
- Battlestar Galactica
- Being Human
And, in not-Game-of-Thrones flailing …
Fringe: ZOMG. I cried. I really, really cried. I didn’t realize how much I’d fallen in love with those people and their crazy world.
Grimm: Someone needs to point me to Nick/Monroe slash. Because … hi? Slashbait that can be seen from space, yo.
Korra: A little uncomfortable with the “jealous of the pretty girl” thing. Can’t she just be awesome without getting angsty over a dude? Otherwise, loving it.
Also having all sorts of Eureka, Lost Girl and Borgias feels lately, but just … ugh. No bandwidth to really express them all.
I am a blissed-out fanthing right now
Between last night’s Renly/Loras glory and tonight’s Eureka premiere’s awesome fuckery? Also, Saturday’s Korra premiere, which blew past my expectations by a mile.
And I still have yet to watch this week’s Lost Girl* and Borgias. Jeebis.
Fringe and Grimm have also been delightful, too. And the most recent Criminal Minds, with Garcia going all Super Badass on Morgan? Love.
*Yes, I’ve gotten into this show after my initial trepidation. It went a long way toward soothing my Hot Bi Babe eyerolling when she started getting serious about the doc.
Also into: Game of Thrones, Sinbad, Arrow, Vikings, Continuum, Leverage, Warehouse 13, Fringe, Criminal Minds, Sherlock, LOTR/The Hobbit, BSG, Lost, Sanctuary, Downton Abbey, The Hour, Being Human (UK), Eureka, Longmire, Merlin, The Borgias, Grimm, Sleepy Hollow, Strike Back, and the MCU. Among other nerdy entertainment delights.